Something in the world of floating have you stumped?
Show Highlights
In this episode of the Daily Solutions Podcast, Graham and Ashkahn discuss what to do if you experience salt in your ear after your float. The Ol’ Salty Ear is common, uncomfortable, but ultimately avoidable by using things like vinegar and hydrogen peroxide mixed with water.
To learn more, take a listen (or read text from their conversation below).
Show Resources
Listen to Just the Audio
Transcription of this episode… (in case you prefer reading)
Graham: Alright, and today’s question is actually more of a question from the floater side of things, and if you’re a float center owner, then this is something you get all the time, which is, “I feel like I have salt water stuck in my ears.” “It’s a day after the float, how do I get it out?”
Ashkahn: So, first of all, one thing we have in our float rooms is just little bottles of distilled white vinegar. Usually do like a half-half mixture, half water, half distilled white vinegar. I’ve also seen places use alcohol.
Graham: Yeah, rubbing alcohol?
Ashkahn: Rubbing alcohol.
Graham: Not like green alcohol.
Ashkahn: Just pure vodka. But basically that is just a solution that you can put into your ears, kind of like those swimmer’s ears solutions that they make, that helps evaporate that salt water out, break it up, dissolve the salt, and flush the water out. So, that’s kind of a nice precautionary step. Having that in your rooms, available to people so that they can flush their ears out after their floats is going to reduce the number of times this happens to people in the first place.
Graham: I will say, I think they work better than just trying to rinse your ears out with water from the shower, for example, which I have tried doing just that and not using ear drops. Sometimes it’s fine, and then other times I do get that weird kind of crinkly, salty, the old salt ear.
Ashkahn: The old salty ear, yeah. It’s not very pleasant.
Graham: No it’s not. I guess for those of you who haven’t experienced it, first of all, you probably should just go into a float tank and don’t wash your ears out afterwards, and wait a day later.
Ashkahn: No don’t, you don’t want to have to live through that.
Graham: Okay, don’t do that, but if you did do it, what you would experience is kind of crunchiness, and I even find a squeakiness. Like, I’ll turn my neck and my ears squeak, which is a weird phenomenon, and it can actually be kind of painful as well.
Ashkahn: Yeah, it’s uncomfortable for sure.
Graham: Fortunately the exact same thing works as a precautionary measure, works for eliminating it too, so actually just putting some white vinegar, or alcohol into your ear afterwards will alleviate it, in my experience, in a matter of seconds. You get maybe 10 drops of white vinegar into your ear, and almost immediately that salty ear is kind of disappeared, and the crinkliness is gone, and you kind of drain it into a paper towel or whatever it is, and you’re set.
Ashkahn: I’ve also heard of, I’ve never tried this, using hydrogen peroxide. Like the 3% peroxide from the store. Have you tried that?
Graham: I haven’t, and this is where an actual scientist and myself probably diverge down different paths. But, I have heard that hydrogen peroxide is very good at eating away at organic material, and that in general, even for wounds and things like that, it’s probably better to use alcohol than hydrogen peroxide, just for it kind of going after your body a little bit more.
I personally would be a little nervous, and that is my completely uneducated non-medical opinion on that. But no, I haven’t tried it personally either.
Ashkahn: So, sometimes none of that stuff works for people, right? I’ve definitely gotten reports of that, like they tried all that stuff and it didn’t happen. Another of our co-founders just had crazy water in his ear for about a week.
Graham: For a week?
Ashkahn: After floating.
Graham: Yeah.
Ashkahn: I’m not sure what to do, other than wait it out, like it will go away, I mean I’ve had points where I’ve had it for a few days, and it will naturally end eventually, which is nice. But other than vigorously shaking your head, kind of like punching that side of your head with your ear, to kind of hammer it out of your ear, you know?
Graham: [inaudible 00:03:32] … is a medical professional, so that’s very apt medical advice right there.
Ashkahn: Yeah, the punching side of your head part is definitely what I would recommend to everybody.
Graham: Thank you Dr. Kahn.
Ashkahn: Why is there other techniques for this?
Graham: No, and I mean I think to be honest, that, that’s much more like actual swimmer’s ear, right? At that point, it’s not the problem. The problem isn’t that there’s salt water, and salt crystallizing in the front of your ear, it’s that there’s actually water trapped somewhere a little bit deeper. So that’s much more common, and you’ll find it in regular swimming pools, not just float tanks as well.
Then, that will of course happen sometimes here. In Quinn’s case, it happened to be a lot of ear wax. I don’t know if I should say that on the air, I’m like, “Quinn has a lot of ear wax.” But it was, and eventually that ear wax just came loose and came out, and it was totally fine, and he was good again. So that’s how you deal with it.
Anything else to add?
Ashkahn: I don’t know, it just kind of sucks.
Graham: Get yourself some ice cream afterwards, you know? Give yourself a treat.
Ashkahn: Every once in awhile, unfortunately it does kind of ruin people’s experience, I’ve had people tell me, they had a great float, but then this happened to them, and for like three or four days afterwards they were dealing with it, and they’re just not going to come back and float because of it. That part of it is unfortunate.
Graham: Yeah, putting things like that in your walkthrough speech are really good, just to prime people, “Hey, if you do have water in your ears afterwards, first of all, use these vinegar ear drops immediately after, and also if it happens, if it persists for days, that’s a cure for it.
Similarly, if you do have auto emails to go out right after someone’s float, putting in their, that this is a way to take care of salty ear, if they happen to experience it is great, and Ashkahn, we actually have some posts of literature. We call it our ongoing guide to floating, and that has a little mention of, if you have this kind of salt gathering in your ear, what to do about it afterwards. That can again totally stop someone from having a completely miserable experience, just by letting them know how to deal with this problem swiftly rather than thinking it’s something they need to suffer through.
Ashkahn: Okay, well that’s been some Ear Tech, coming straight at you from the old Daily Solutions Podcast.
Graham: In your ears from our mouths.
Recent Podcast Episodes
Monthly Budget for Float Centers – DSP 305
Graham and Ashkahn break down the real truth about how closely they watch their budget for Float On on a monthly basis.
The truth is… not much. As it turns out, monthly expenses for float centers don’t have huge variations unlike businesses that rely on retail, for example. Graham and Ashkahn explain they developed a sense for what’s within reason.
How to Sign on Float Ambassadors – DSP 304
Float Ambassadors have been with the industry since the beginning, but gained popularity sometime in the last few years. What are ambassadors and how to float centers find them? When they do find them, how do they get them to represent floating?
Graham and Ashkahn share their experiences with the practice of finding float mavens out in the world and the impact they’ve had on Float On.
How do you Talk about Psychedelics? – DSP 303
It’s no secret that the inventor of the float tank, John Lilly, was also an early psychonaut and used the tank for mental exploration in conjunction with LSD. Not everyone in the float community appreciates this shared history and some actively try to distance themselves from it given the taboo nature of psychedelics.
Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on psychedelics and floating and how, as a business, they can be completely separated while still being important, as well as explaining why some people might reasonably decide to disassociate from them.
What About 75 Minute Floats? – DSP 302
Most float centers divide on floats offered between 60 or 90 minute floats, but some split the difference right down the middle and offer 75 minutes. Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on this tactic, what they see as the pros, cons, and things to consider when implementing it.
Free Floats for Teachers – DSP 301
Graham and Ashkahn give their perspective on the pros and cons of giving free floats away for teachers. Giving out free floats is the Float On way and giving them to a specific group of people who could really use them sounds like a good idea.
The guys break it down and address some of the concerns any float center may have about running a program like this.
Latest Blog Posts
The Basics of Float Tank Sanitation
Some of the most common questions you’ll get as a float center operator involve the cleanliness of the tanks. This post will be an introduction to some of the most commonplace sanitation methods used in float tanks. These are generally either chemicals that go in the water or devices that attach to your filtration system. We’ll be discussing chlorine, bromine, ozone, UV, and hydrogen peroxide, which accounts for the sanitation methods used on nearly every float tank on the market.
Testing and Maintaining Float Tank Water Quality
Editors Note: This is a revision of a past blog post, updated to reflect the most current sanitation methods and standards
In a perfect world, you could just pour water and salt into a float tank and it would stay pure and clean and fresh and salty forever. In the real world, conditions in the water are constantly changing, so keeping your water safe and clean takes a fair amount of vigilance.
This post covers how we maintain basic water quality in the float tank, except for sanitization methods, which will be covered in their own beastly sanitation blog post. Stay tuned for that coming out next week!
Floating, mental health, and wellness
This post will explore the intersection of floating with the concepts, beliefs, and experiences related to mental health and wellness, with a focus on anxiety and depression. I’ll explore my own story as it relates to floating before diving into the current intersections of floating and mental health, with a look at past, current, and potential opportunities for research and personal growth.
Massage, Acupuncture, and Float Tanks… A Chat with Sandra Calm
We’ve seen lots of float centers that aren’t just float centers.
Many have massage, some offer counseling, some have yoga classes next door. Lots of people start out either by incorporating float tanks into a larger business, or with float tanks only being one of many modalities at their center. Being specialists in floating, Float On has not mastered anything else.
So, to help gain insight into this growing aspect of the industry, we contacted our old friend, Sandra Calm. She started up The Float Shoppe here in Portland with her husband and podcast sensation, Dylan Calm, back in 2011. When they first opened, they had just two float tanks, and slowly added acupuncture, massage, counseling, along with two more tanks. Talk about expansion!
She was more than happy to take some time for the industry to help us understand just what it’s like to run a center with multiple services by answering some questions.