Learn best practices for starting and running a float center:
  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Something in the world of floating have you stumped?

  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Show Highlights

Graham and Ashkahn finally take the time to answer the most anticipated question of the year. Now their ever loyal and patient fans will finally get the answer they’re looking for.

Show Resources

The Float Conference – Buy tickets, see dates, schedules, get accommodations, maps… everything you need to enjoy this special event. 

Listen to Just the Audio

Transcription of this episode… (in case you prefer reading)

Graham: And today’s question, we actually had coming in from a few hundred different listeners. So, I thought it was about time we addressed it, which was, here, let me pull it out here. “Tell me more about your magical and enchanting float conference for 2018? How can I go? How can I give you all of my money?”

Ashkahn: Wow. That’s a great question.

Graham: Yeah, well, and we really appreciate it.

Ashkahn: It’s on everybody’s mind. Yeah. So, thank you for that genuine question from people out there. So, we got a Float Conference.

Graham: Woo!

Ashkahn: Yeah. It’s pretty exciting. It’s been happening since 2012, so this will be-

Graham: I was gonna say since 1901. You really jumped on my joke there, you know?

Ashkahn: This will be our seventh Float Conference that’s coming up here, and it’s in Portland, Oregon. We’ve always done them in Portland, Oregon.

Graham: That’s more than you can count on one hand, plus an extra thumb.

Ashkahn: Yeah, which is, I mean, that’s the real milestone that most people are going for. It’s good. For those of you who’ve never been to the Float Conference before, it’s basically kind of like a giant party where everybody from the float industry from around the world comes out and gets to hang out together.

Graham: And some confused people not from the float industry, too.

Ashkahn: Yeah, very, very unaware that they’re in the middle of a float tornado. But there are sometimes we’re in different buildings, and people are like, “what is going on here?”

But yeah, it’s super fun. People come out from all around the world who run float centers and are generally kind of in the float industry, and they come all out to Portland, Oregon and we have a couple days worth of talks from things like researchers presenting their newest data, Justin Feinstein always brings his crew with him from his lab and they get to share kind of the newest information they’ve been researching over the year.

Graham: Which is always really exciting. It’s actually, I think that’s a lot of people’s favorite part is actually getting got see the data for what floats are doing to people, you know?

Ashkahn: Uh-huh. So, yeah. That’s cool. Big float centers around the world. We usually invite a few people like out to give talks, generally kind of cool, interesting people somewhat related to the whole kind of float universe.

Graham: And a handful of really boring speakers that we just sort of sprinkle in-

Ashkahn: We pepper in. Make the other people look better, you know?

Graham: Yeah, yeah.

Ashkahn: That’s the goal.

Graham: It’s all about dynamic range, I think is what they recommend for conferences, you know?

Ashkahn: So, it is, I like this about all conferences, is just that you really get to go and learn about the absolute newest information happening, which is always cool. We go to a bunch of conferences and that’s always my favorite part. You just really feel like you’re on the kind of leading edge of information. That’s true of the Float Conference, too. I go there and I learn a bunch of stuff over the course of the weekend. I’m like, wait, what’s happening?

There’s a bunch of, especially nowadays, crazy stuff happening in the float world. There’s some serious research being done through the Air Force, and those people who are just starting to enter this world last year came out and presented what they were working on and where they were planning on their research going, and it’s cool just to see the stuff that is otherwise a little bit hidden in the float world, that you don’t know is happening behind the scenes and see where it’s going.

Graham: Yeah. New float tank launches every year at the float conference, which is always exciting to see what people bring out. Often times, we don’t even know ahead of time-

Ashkahn: Yeah.

Graham: People will just tell us, “We’re debuting some kind of new float technology,” and we get to be surprised along with everyone else when they roll it out.

Ashkahn: Yeah. Also, it’s just pretty much the greatest group of people you can gather into a room together. Everybody is super chill, they’re super relaxed, they’re really happy to be there, and they’re super happy to talk to each other and share information and help each other out. It’s a really community focused group of people, and this is the time that everyone actually gets to be together in one physical space.

Graham: Derrick Wyatt always describes it as a big float family reunion, but without any creepy uncles, and better food.

Ashkahn: So, it’s super fun. It’s a super fun time. If you’ve never been out before, obviously we recommend that you come out.

Graham: What are the dates this year? We just set them, right?

Ashkahn: The dates, yeah. So, August 18th and 19th-

Graham: I’m glad I didn’t say my dates I had in my head. I was wrong. I was wrong.

Ashkahn: Marchvember … August 18th and 19th, 2018 is the main conference, that’s a Saturday and Sunday. We also put on a workshop called the “How to Start a Float Center Workshop,” which, as you can imagine, is all about how to start a float center. That’s the two days beforehand, so that’s-

Graham: We’re not very good at coming up with clever names for things.

Ashkahn: No, it’s just very direct.

Graham: “Float Conference”, “How to Start a Center workshop”. Yeah.

Ashkahn: It’s a very just literal sort of thing. So, yeah. If you’re in the planning stages or thinking about opening up a center and you want a bunch of information, that’s the thing you want to come to. How to Start a Float Center workshop.

Then what’s becoming a bigger and more awesome part of the event every year is the Friday activities.

Graham: I thought you were gonna say the CPO training.

Ashkahn: That happen, they’re activities that happen on Friday. They go with our general theme of extremely blunt naming. Basically, people in the industry who are coming to the conference who want to organize their own little activity or event will put these on. So, we do a couple of them. We usually do a bus tour-

Graham: Beer bus tour.

Ashkahn: A beer, yeah, drinking-

Graham: Craft beer-

Ashkahn: Craft beer-

Graham: Double decker-

Ashkahn: Double decker bus tour.

Graham: Bus tour.

Ashkahn: It takes you around to the different float centers in Portland while you drink beer on the second story of a bus.

We put on a marketing forum last year, which was super fun. Had a bunch of panels from various float center owners talking about their marketing advice.

Then a bunch of people just put on all sorts of cool stuff, like maybe 10 to 20 independent-

Graham: Floatlympics this year, was one of my favorites.

Ashkahn: Community events. Yeah, the Floatlympics was very silly. So-

Graham: Salt bag tosses, and …

Ashkahn: That’s the day before the main Saturday/Sunday. So, that’s the Friday. Which is usually, I kind of consider it the start of the conference at this point. You come on that Friday morning, you do a whole day of activities, and then you start in on the main talks on Saturday.

Graham: We have a special program, too, where you can actually come and live in our float center for three months leading up to the conference and volunteer and help us out, and occasionally Ashkahn and I will actually let you come sleep in our rooms with us, and sort of have a little sleepover, braiding hair kind of thing.

Ashkahn: Have the scraps of our food.

Graham: That’s maybe once every two weeks, yeah.

So, if you’re interested in that, definitely reach out.

Ashkahn: Yeah. That’s it. It’s super fun. It’s super fun time.

Graham: Yeah. It’s really fun. Come on out and say hello. Let us give you big hugs.

Ashkahn: Yeah. Floatconference.com is the website. This is good. I think this was a very genuine question, and thanks for … I hope this information was a really tactical and pragmatic-

Graham: Yeah, and maybe now you’ll stop pestering us every day with all those emails asking us to cover this on the podcast, you know?

Ashkahn: Yeah.

Graham: If you have any more totally genuine, legitimate questions that are actually submitted by users, or you’re users. What are you guys again? Listeners?

Ashkahn: Submitters?

Graham: Sub, by you, submitted by you, go to floattanksolutions.com/podcast, enter them in, and yeah, we’ll talk to you tomorrow.

Recent Podcast Episodes

How to Handle Reopening? – DSP 310

If there’s one thing Ashkahn and Graham have learned, it’s reopening. Float On has had to shut down for repairs so many times over the years that they’ve got the process down to a science. 

They share their secrets for making sure you have a full week after opening, build momentum, keep your members happy in the downtime and throw a kickin’ reopening party!

What Inspires your Marketing? – DSP 309

Graham and Ashkahn talk about what it’s like when inspiration strikes, how they chase their floaty muse to a solid marketing idea and form it into an actionable plan. 

The reality is that it mostly involves a lot of listening and willingness to try, and fail at, new things. As with so many things, play to your strengths, focus on the things you’re passionate about and the rest is practice. 

What’s Happening with the Float Conference Non-Profit – DSP 308

Ashkahn and Graham talk about how the Float Conference has been going since they handed off the reigns this year. Big decisions are still incoming, but there’s a lot of ways you can help out or get involved. 

If you’d like to offer your help, services, or suggestions for the new Non-profit of the Float Conference, or if you’d just like updates to how it’s going and where it might be held next year, email conference@floathq.com, and the Conference will know to contact you. 

VR in a Float Tank – DSP 307

While they haven’t tried it themselves, Ashkahn and Graham liberally distribute their opinions on the use of VR in float tanks and what they think might be better, using it before, after, or during a float.

How to do A/B Testing – DSP 306

A/B Testing is a method to compare one system against another. Most often, this is used to compare the performance of one version of a website to another in real time.

Graham and Ashkahn talk about A/B testing (or “the old onesie-twosies” as Ashkahn says) and how it can be used to improve a float center’s website.

Latest Blog Posts

Financing Your Float Center with Investors

Financing Your Float Center with Investors

In addition to an increase in bank loans, more and more float centers have been using investors in recent years to finance their operations. Every center’s earning potential varies greatly — but a well-run center with no surprise buildout costs (or re-buildout costs) can do very well for itself.

As a result, people with means (or general interest) are increasingly likely to consider having a financial stake in the float industry without the glorious headache of actually running a shop.

Float Conference Interview

Float Conference Interview

In the midst of all of our blog writing and party planning, I sat down with Ashkahn Jahromi, cofounder of The Float Conference, Float On, and Float Tank Solutions with a few questions about the upcoming Float Conference aka #FloatCon for you social media savvy kids in Twitterland.

Take Part in the 2017 Float Industry Report

Take Part in the 2017 Float Industry Report

We’re gathering responses for our 2017 Industry Report through the end of June, and we once again need your help.

Please take a brief moment to answer a few questions about your float center (or future float center) – it may be easiest thing you can do to contribute to the growth of floatation around the world.