Something in the world of floating have you stumped?
Show Highlights
Obviously float centers need a lot of salt. The average float tank requires roughly a thousand pounds of salt to maintain a specific gravity high enough to be functional. What about after you get your tanks filled and ready to go, how much do you need to have on hand just for maintaining that level? Fortunately, Graham and Ashkahn have a good rule of thumb for how they run Float On to use as a metric, as well as some good simple tips to keep in mind about storage in your float centers.
Listen to Just the Audio
Transcription of this episode… (in case you prefer reading)
Graham: So, today’s question is, “How much salt should you have on hand at any given time?”
Ashkahn: How much salt? I mean I got my general rule.
Graham: Was is going to be a lot? That’s what I was going to say.
Ashkahn: You don’t want to have a little bit of salt, that’s a big problem.
Graham: Trust us, this isn’t the line of work for that.
Ashkahn: I like always having at least one float tanks worth of salt on hand. You’re biggest float tank if you have different models. I never want to not be able to refill a single tank at any moment. That way you’re just prepared. Whatever happens you can totally drain and fill a tank. If you don’t all of a sudden, who knows you might have to shut that tank down for a few days. That’s a lot of lost revenue. That’s kind of my comfort zone. If we’re ever less than a full float tanks worth that we have in storage or in our lobby or whatever that’s the danger zone to me.
Graham: So really that’s when you have your biggest float tanks worth of salt, the order should be arriving on your doorstep that day to replenish your salt.
Ashkahn: Right. Littlest amount.
Graham: That’s your lowest amount that you possibly want. It’s just because something could go wrong. If your batch of salt gets contaminated by something in a float tank then you want to be able to immediately, day of, start that refilling process.
Ashkahn: Right.
Graham: Because that makes sense. Then you know other than that it’s I guess moving up from there, how much salt you keep on hand and how much you want to be reordering it.
Ashkahn: Right. I mean every company I know of, the price gets cheaper the more salt you order at once.
Graham: That’d be weird if it was …
Ashkahn: More expensive. “You want how much salt?”
Graham: “No, that’s really going to cost you this time.”
Ashkahn: It’s tempting. I mean when we order salt I’m constantly in my head, “I should just order 50,000 pounds and then we’ll get a warehouse and we’ll store it.” When we’ve crunched the numbers, it’s really hard to make the finances actually work out. If you’re paying for storage, if you’re paying for storage that’s just there to house salt so that you can order a bigger order to bring the price down it almost never actually saves you more money than the cost of the storage space.
Graham: Almost no matter what it is even if we’re talking about 75, 100 dollars a month or something to store that salt, it immediately eats into that profit margin.
Ashkahn: It just doesn’t seem to work out. Here’s the best idea we’ve had. Feel free to steal this one. The best idea we had to solve this problem was just to replace all the furniture in our house with salt bags. Just make a couch out of salt bags and a salt bag TV stand. The problem was that we realized we’d slowly start losing our furniture over the course of us using the salt.
Graham: I also do think that same idea is applicable in float tank a lobby as well. Just have your whole lobby furniture made out of salt.
Ashkahn: Just constructed out of salt bags. So, that was pretty tempting but we never …
Graham: I thought you were just going to say invent anti-gravity and this whole salt thing really solves the problem.
Ashkahn: That’s the real solution.
Graham: So that said, how much salt do we order at a time when we order salt?
Ashkahn: Well, so we keep salt in our lobby.
Graham: The furniture thing again.
Ashkahn: Furniture. Kind of, yeah. Then we also have a storage shed out near our office. Which just kind of comes with our office, we’re not paying any extra rent for it so it’s not part of the math equation of salt cost. Basically we order as much as we can to fill those spaces. For us ends up being about 10,000 pounds of salt. That fills up our shed and then there’s a nice little stack in our lobby.
Graham: I think the biggest order we did was for around 15,000.
Ashkahn: Yeah, once.
Graham: That was just … Once again, it spill over into this area where we had to pay for a little bit of storage. It kind of made it not worth storing any more.
Ashkahn: We were filling tanks up right around then. That’s mostly what we do. We’re often ordering it. At least that lasts us about six months. We’ll order that.
Graham: Once a year we’ll be doing our tank refills, it’s the regularity that we’re doing that. Just to give you guys an idea.
Ashkahn: We’ll do a tank refill and we’ll order salt right before that because we use a lot of salt in that process.
Graham: And, we have six float tanks. We’re opened 24 hours a day. We run around 1,300 floats a month. We run a lot of floats that are using up that salt as well. When you do the averages it ends up being about 1.1 pounds of salt per person, is what we end up losing per float.
Ashkahn: But, I mean really going to the question of how much do you have on hand; if we didn’t have that storage unit, we wouldn’t be ordering that much salt.
Graham: Very true. On the other hand, some of the other centers that we’ve visited, if you just have a ton of back storage or you have all this space that you can use that you’re not making use of, then order even more. Again, it only gets cheaper the more you have. It’s not like your Epsom salt is going to hit its expiration date.
Ashkahn: It’s not going to go bad.
Graham: Yeah.
Ashkahn: You can make some nice furniture out of it.
Graham: All right. So, there you have it. As much as you can and never less than enough to fill your largest float tank.
Ashkahn: Okay.
Graham: So, thanks for tuning in. As always, if you want another question like this or even easier than this answered, feel free to go to floattanksolutions.com/podcast and send it in there.
Recent Podcast Episodes
How Often Does Float On Party? – DSP 225
Ashkahn and Graham have developed a bit of a reputation over the years within the industry as party animals. Anyone who has met them can confirm this to be true. But how often to the throw parties at Float On? What are good occasions for float center parties and how do you throw one?
The guys share their party philosophy and offer some nice tips and tricks for throwing a sensory deprivation shindig.
Is there a “Best” Float Position? – DSP 224
Ashkahn and Graham thoroughly debunk the myth of a “best” float position. The Float On boys explicate their philosophy that there is no right way to float and instead talk about all the different positions they enjoy floating in. They learn more about each other than they expected to in the process.
What to Look for When Hiring a Float Center Employee – DSP 223
What makes a good float center employee? What does Float On look for when trying to find someone to take care of their salt monster tanks and their blissed out customers at the same time?
Ashkahn and Graham break down the qualities they look for when hiring, and what makes the people at Float On so special.
How Do you Incentivize Return Floaters without Memberships or Packages? – DSP 222
How many times has a float center owner had a first time floater come out of the tank and said something along the lines of “that was amazing! I need to do this every week!” and then they never see that person again? How do you get them to come back without committing to a membership or a high ticket package of floats?
Ashkahn and Graham share their thoughts on this exact problems and some of the creative solutions they’ve implemented at Float On to combat it. The key, for them, has been keeping it simple and making it accessible.
How to Schedule Your Float Center During the Slow Season – DSP 221
For most float centers, the summer months drastically change how busy it gets. It seems that zenning out to nothingness is moderately less appealing when there’s a lot of outdoor activities to enjoy.
Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on a reduced schedule. Float On runs 24 hours almost every day throughout the year. so reducing their schedule is typically against their philosophies. They explain some of the reasons people might consider it, what are some good ways to go about it, as well as explain some practices to consider avoiding when cutting hours.
Latest Blog Posts
Float Quarterly – January 2016
It’s been our pleasure to be actively involved in the float industry for over five years now. In 2016, we’re already on track to have more new centers opening, more press covering floating, and more resources for people just entering our salty world than ever before.
With so much action, we’ve decided to send out brief, quarterly updates on our industry to keep people posted on the all the latest happenings. Welcome to our first installment!
Training to Become a Certified Pool/Spa Operator
Each year at the Float Conference, we put on a Certified Pool/Spa Operator (CPO) training course. At first, that might strike you as an odd thing to have as part of a float tank conference. This post will explain what CPO training is and why we think it can be a really useful certification to have on your belt.
Increase Sales by Offering Retail in Your Float Center
On their own, float tanks have a limit to their profits. Retailing has the potential to bring extra money into your shop, but it also requires a lot of work and attention on your part to really be successful at it. At Float On, our retail contributes 6.5% towards our overall sales and 3% of total profit. While this might not seem like a large contribution, depending on your sales, it could end up paying the wages of a whole extra employee.
The Health Department and Float Tanks… How to get Approved!
If you’re working on starting a float center, chances are you’re nervously anticipating having to call the health department. We’ve all heard horror stories of people being asked to follow pool rules that don’t make sense for them, or having to do costly changes to their pump systems.
float tanks not regulatedBelow is our best advice for working with your health department to get your float center approved, but before we dive into that, it’s important to get a bit of an understanding as to how the health department works.