Something in the world of floating have you stumped?
Show Highlights
Float tanks are like giant salty babies sometimes. Between water sanitation, temperature control, and filtration…they require a lot of attention and care, and even when you do things perfectly they can still make giant salty messes everywhere. So how do you leave your baby alone for a week? How do you prepare for that? Unlike a human baby, you can take your float tank with you (or at least it’s unlikely).
Listen to Just the Audio
Transcription of this episode… (in case you prefer reading)
Graham: Today’s question is, “my workplace is shutting down for about a week. What do I do with my float pod over this time?” … I say just throw a customer in, and see how long they can last.
Ashkahn: Tell them it’s a normal 60 minute float.
Graham: Then, leave. Lock the door. There are some preparations, right?
Ashkahn: Yeah.
Graham: What happens if we do nothing?
Ashkahn: Pandemonium. Chaos.
Graham: You have cats and dogs living together.
Ashkahn: You’re mostly worried about, I’d say, two things. One is your sanitation.
Graham: I thought you were going to say sanity.
Ashkahn: One is your sanitation, and the other one is salt crystallization.
Graham: Yeah.
Ashkahn: Those are the two big things that are going to be uh-ohs for you, if you just leave a float tank for a week. Depends on the float tank, right?
Graham: Yeah.
Ashkahn: What can happen is, basically, your salt water is at a certain temperature. If it falls below that temperature, then the saturation point of your solution will be hit. You’ll just have salt starting to crystallize in the water.
Graham: Right. Because, our float tanks keep our salt dissolved at that temperature, at that concentration.
Ashkahn: Right, right.
Graham: If you change either of those, if the concentration goes up, if the temperature goes down, all of a sudden, that crystallization point changes. That’s what going on here.
Ashkahn: You can start growing salt crystals. Most of the time, your float tank is heated. It’s got some sort of heating pad, some system so that the tub itself is heated. That would probably be fine, temperature wise, if you were to leave it for a week.
Graham: But, your pipes and your pump usually aren’t affected by the heat going into the water. You need some way to be able to cycle the water that’s in your pipes and in your pump back into the tank, so that could be heated, as well.
Ashkahn: Otherwise, all the water in the pipes and in the pump will slowly start to crystallize. Literally, you’ll just have chunks of salt crystals in your pipes, and specifically around the impeller in your pump, so that it can’t spin. It won’t actually be able to work.
Graham: Hopefully, this will never happen to you, but it’s also a little bit of an initiation.
Ashkahn: It’s happened to us multiple times. We know about it, and we keep screwing it up.
This is really to say, though, that there are float tanks out there that have safety guards in place for this. There’s a lot of float tanks that, in their controller, will just have some rule that says, “If the pump hasn’t been run for six hours, it’s just going to kick on and do a cycle by itself.” That’s to stop this problem from happening.
The tank itself is being heated and the water is circulating every so often. That stops anything from dropping the temperature too much that it gets to the point of solidifying.
Graham: Other ones, like reservoir systems, that kick all the water back into the reservoir and keep that on a tiny cycle, or something like that, can do that, too.
Ashkahn: Those are heated.
Graham: Yeah.
Ashkahn: The most low tech version is just to go in every day, and run the pump for 10 minutes, and go home. Usually, that’s what we do. We’re closed so infrequently, on Thanksgiving and on Christmas. Literally, there’s always just one employee who is just like, “Oh, I’ll stop by and run the pumps.”
Graham: Because, the second most low tech solution is automatic and not that hard, which is really funny. It still doesn’t make sense for us to go that high, which is just going down to Radio Shack, basically, and getting a little outlet timer. You can just set that to turn on and be able to run your pump on a regular basis.
Ashkahn: If you have the electrical set up correctly. You don’t want to mess too much with-
Graham: Yeah. If you have it on an auto-on kind of thing, do some little adjustments.
Ashkahn: And, it works with your GFCI, and your float tank’s not wired a weird way.
Graham: Super easy.
Ashkahn: As long as the electrical safety is still regarded. There are smart plug, and smart switches, and things you can control from your phone to turn on and off. Things you can put on timers. There’s all sorts of technology for stuff like that now.
Graham: I know a fair amount of centers who, especially are occasionally closed for two or three days at a time, or something like that. A little more regularly. Who, that is absolutely what they do. They have some automated switch or timer system. That’s how they make sure they don’t have to-
Ashkahn: Again, just make sure you’re doing this so you don’t just plug a timer power strip in, or something. You don’t want to have power strips, and stuff like that. As long as electrical safety is in there.
Yeah. There’s a range of solutions for them. None of them are really that difficult. Some float tanks just come with that problem solved already. Again, worst case scenario, going in every day and turning it on is not really that big of a deal. That’s one side of it.
The other side is, actually, pretty much the same thing. If your water just sits stagnant like that for a long time, the sanitation can get a little bit out of hand.
Graham: Even though there’s no one floating in it. Even though you had dosed it beforehand. If you have UV, it’s running through the system, at least one cycle every six hours or something.
Ashkahn: It’s basically for that. Depends on what you’re doing to sanitize. If you’re focusing a lot on UV and you’re not running the filtration system, then none of it’s being affected by UV, right?
Same thing for things that you’re dosing, like chlorine or if you’re adding hydrogen peroxide with your UV. Those levels will go down over time. Even if no one’s floating. If they’re catching the residuals of whatever else. If you just leave for a week, and those things hit zero on day one, then all the sudden, those levels are gone in your system. Basically, that.
Graham: We like to kick up the notch a little bit when we’re about to go on some kind of break. Or, when we know that the shop’s going to be closed down for a while.
Ashkahn: Yeah. It’s the same thing, though. You want to keep running the system, basically, in some frequency to make sure things are still operating like they would be were you to be open. You want to have water going past that UV light, or you want to make sure your levels are being maintained.
Again, this comes in to the actual system that you have. Some systems have auto-dosers, so there is a chance that all this could be automated, right? The pump turns on by itself.
Graham: Temperature is maintained.
Ashkahn: Temperature is maintained by itself.
Graham: Sanitation is maintained.
Ashkahn: There’s auto-dosers that are auto-dosing by themselves.
Graham: They take care of your kids.
Ashkahn: Yeah. Just start booking in for you.
Graham: Everything. It’s just …
Ashkahn: Basically, it depends on the equipment you have. Short of that, you just need to fill in manually whichever parts aren’t automated.
Graham: Yeah. Thinking that you could just leave a tank without making plans for either of those things is problematic.
Ashkahn: Yeah. The more this relies on you, the less you can just actually leave for a week, and go to Jamaica and kick it on the beach.
Graham: Is there anything else? I guess, outside of the pod, I just had one other recommendation, as long as we’re on the topic of taking off for a little bit. Which is, update your holiday hours. Or, update your vacation hours for that time on different websites to let people know. Put out something on social media.
Ashkahn: Change your voicemail.
Graham: Yeah, definitely change your voicemail. Things like that can go a really long way. On your scheduling software, have a message at the top or change the message at the top, to say that you’re going to be closed from these dates, and not to expect to reach you.
Ashkahn: What we usually do is, if you have staff or something, we usually have someone still answering voicemails and stuff. What we do is we just set up a Google Voice number. We have our shop phone forward to that Google Voice number. Then that Google Voice number can be accessed anywhere. You can see voicemail just through your email.
You don’t even need to have someone constantly answering the phones or anything. But, someone could check the voicemails once a day. And, just deal with whoever called and left a voicemail, and get back to them. With a little bit of work, you can maintain a nicer customer experience through being closed.
Graham: Yep. Again, just another little side tip about that. Anything else on taking off for a vacation for a week?
Ashkahn: Yeah. It’s a little terrifying.
Graham: But, you deserve it.
Ashkahn: The thought that your pump, you could have a leak or something on day one. And, be a week before you actually were there to notice it is a terrifying thought.
Graham: We normally run our shop 24 hours a day, so even leaving our pumps alone for four hours is something we don’t usually have to think about as much.
Yeah. Get over it. Take breaks for yourself. It’ll probably be fine. You’ll probably be fine.
Ashkahn: What’s the worst that could happen?
Graham: If you have any other questions, go to FloatTankSolutions.com/podcast. Send them in to us. We’ll talk to you tomorrow.
Recent Podcast Episodes
When DON’T you Feel Like Floating? – DSP 275
Graham has Juliet on the podcast today since Ashkahn is doing some post-Conference traveling.
The duo talks about times when floating just doesn’t feel like a good idea, which is something they have a bit of disagreement about. Juliet shares her experiences being cautious of her experiences in the tank and how she tends to have to be more mindful of when she floats.
How do you Handle Changing Memberships? – DSP 274
This year at the Float Conference, Derek hosted a marketing forum and took questions that he wanted to share with everyone here.
This episode focuses on how Float On handles memberships, including tiered memberships and how to gracefully transition from one type of membership to another.
Are Vapor Barriers a Good Idea for Float Centers? – DSP 273
You can tell when Graham starts to miss Ashkahn when he makes a soundboard made up of sound clips from previous episodes just to have Ashkahn do another intro.
Jake and Graham break down barriers in this episode. Vapor barriers, that is. These tools are a little confusing in the construction world and their efficacy is hotly debated in just regular construction, never mind the demands that a float center has, especially in regards to moisture protection. Fortunately, Graham and Jake know a thing or two about a thing or two and explain what vapor barriers are, how they work, and what the source of contention is.
What to Consider with Plumbing in a New Float Center – DSP 272
Graham and Jake talk about the confusing world of plumbing for your float center. There are any number of unpleasant surprises that can come about when planning the water lines to showers, getting floor drains in place, and making sure everything lines up how it’s supposed to. If the sewer main is too deep or not where you think it is, it can add a significant amount of cost to your build out just to get floor drains installed. Fortunately, the guys have some useful tricks to help mitigate costs and plan accordingly.
Should I use Spray-in Insulation for my Float Center? – DSP 271
Graham and Jake are still in a sans Ashkahn world at Daily Solutions, but they’re not letting it harsh their mellow.
The guys are talking about the different types of spray-in insulation today. It’s a pretty common material in construction and it can be a fantastic insulator for float centers, if you get the right type.
Jake and Graham go over the differences between open cell and closed cell insulation and why, specifically, float centers should avoid open cell insulation. They also provide some excellent pointers on the materials themselves and good conversations to have with a contractor regarding insulation.
Latest Blog Posts
Oh, the Questions You’ll Hear!
When you run a float tank center, you’re going to get asked a lot of questions. Do I float naked? Can I drown? Is this sanitary? Many of these are easy to answer: It’s recommended. Not without a conscious, and determined effort. Yes! There are some questions, however,...
Happy TANKSgiving (Giving Gifts to Monthly Members)
Monthly memberships are an important way to ensure that your float tank center has a consistent, if not dependable, amount of business.
While pricing structures for memberships vary widely across the industry, we’re focusing less on the strategy of what to charge and looking more at the benefits we’re actually offering. Once we’ve established a solid offering, then we can revisit pricing.
Running a successful monthly membership program takes more than just charging customers and making sure they use their credits. With a little creativity, we can find ways to increase engagement.
Your Flow Meter May Be Inaccurate (and what to do about it)
Float tanks tend to use a lot of parts borrowed from the pool and spa industry and, whenever that happens, it’s always important to question whether that pool part works accurately with our salt water solution. We’ve recently gained some insight into that question on...
The Float Tour Blog Roundup!
The following is our collection of links to the all of the Float Tour blogs. My chronicling of our adventure, highlighting all of you out there.
Thank you for the memories.