Learn best practices for starting and running a float center:
  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Something in the world of floating have you stumped?

  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

Show Highlights

Still no Ashkahn today. He’s taking a couple of post-conference days to himself.

Jake and Graham are on the scene though to answer construction questions, though. Even the straight forward ones, like today. Jake informs us which to choose when doing construction, light or heavy gauge studs when constructing a float center, while getting a little sidetracked when comparing wooden and metal studs.

Listen to Just the Audio

Transcription of this episode… (in case you prefer reading)

Graham: Alright, welcome everybody. This is Graham over here.

Jake: And this is Jake over here.

Graham: The man with the lesson.

Jake: Oh, something with the lesson.

Graham: And today’s-

Jake: We have a question.

Graham: Question. Yeah, I guess, first of all there’s no Ashkahn so if you’re expecting Ashkahn, you were wrong and you should feel bad about it. And so it’s just Jake and I rocking it out. Answering some construction stuff. And today’s question is “what are your thoughts on heavy versus light gauge studs?”

Jake: My thoughts on heavy versus light gauge studs.

Graham: So they’re talking about metal studs.

Jake: Of course.

Graham: Because you don’t have gauges of wood.

Jake: No, they’re talking about metal studs here and you have a whole range of gauges. What do we see? A lot of 20? 20 gauge is what we’ve come across as the most common.

Graham: Yeah, I think especially when you’re dealing with commercial construction, not residential, when we’re gonna be putting some heavy sheets of drywall on our walls most commonly. So I think a lot places 25 is the requirement, but 20 is really common.

Jake: Yeah, definitely. Probably more common for what we want with our very heavy walls like you’re saying. But to get back to the question, light gauge versus heavy gauge.

Graham: And so either of those would be light gauge.

Jake: Right.

Graham: 20/25, that’s light.

Jake: Absolutely. I guess the answer there is light gauge. Unless it’s load bearing. If you’re not holding up part of the property, if you’re not putting tanks on the second floor, if it’s not load bearing, then light gauge studs are definitely the answer.

Graham: And that’s pretty much the alternative to wood studs. You don’t really see heavy gauge steel studs used as just an alternative to standard wood studs in framing or anything like that. Light gauge is the alternative.

Jake: And we like metal studs for a couple reasons. If you do end up with a moisture problem in your wall or something like that, metal stud holds up better than a wooden stud. A wooden stud is gonna swell, it’s gonna flex. Mold and mildew can grow through it. Whereas a metal stud is not gonna suffer that sort of damage. What else do we like about them?

Graham: Well, in some places they’re required for commercial construction.

Jake: Yeah. In some places you just have no choice. So we love them.

Graham: They don’t flex with the seasons as much in general.

Jake: If you have a good thermal barrier. If you have a good thermal break in between an exterior environment and an interior environment. When we were down in Australia they were mentioning that they’d experience some problems with that from time to time if they didn’t have a good thermal break because it would be really, really hot outside.

Graham: Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s Australia too.

Jake: Yeah, right. Usually in spring and fall is when the houses were changing and stuff like that. That’s what we heard.

Graham: So does that mean that the metal actually expands and contracts more than the wood is going to change with the seasons?

Jake: It has worse thermal resistance. Yeah, that is kinda one of the down sides of metal studs. The thermal resistance is not as high as it is for wood.

Graham: But does it actually grow and shrink more with the thermal changes? I mean it definitely is affected more but-

Jake: I think it is, right? Because that’s where you’re getting those popping. That’s where you’re getting that sound. And they do flex. Especially if you go lighter gauge studs. If you’re looking at 25 gauge, those flex much more than 20 gauge which is flexing more than 18.

Graham: This is why we have Jake on the show for construction stuff. Yeah, I thought the metal flexed less than wood. That’s interesting.

Jake: I mean I don’t know the difference between the two. What I know is that metal is flexing. Metal is doing something. I don’t know which is flexing more.

Graham: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally. No, it makes sense. Especially in Australia.

Jake: Yeah.

Graham: Okay. So just ignore that whole flexing. But that’s no longer a point of benefit for the metal.

Jake: They don’t rot like wooden ones do. They can be considered greener because they’re using recycled content as opposed to wood.

Graham: Okay. But back to the original question. So light versus heavy gauge studs.

Jake: Light gauge studs, unless it’s load bearing.

Graham: Ding. A little extra bonus content with wood versus steel in there too. But yeah, anything else?

Jake: No, no, no, great. I love them.

Graham: Good question.

Jake: Yeah, great question.

Graham: Bravo. Bravo. Encore.

And if you have questions of your own, just head on over to floattanksolutions.com/podcast. We’ll be there waiting. We’re always waiting. Talk to you tomorrow.

Jake: Goodbye.

Recent Podcast Episodes

Tank Topic – Writing E-mails

This Tank Topic covers everything you need to know to get your e-mail on. You wanna know how long your e-mail newsletter should be and what topics you should cover? You wanna know how frequently to e-mail for special deals? You even wanna know how long your e-mails should have to be? You wanna know all these answers all at once? We freaking got you! I’m so glad you asked, cuz we literally just put this episode together. I’m really glad you’re gonna find it useful. Rock on, dude. Synchronicity!

Pseudomonas in a Float Tank! – OSP 07

This is a bit of breaking news for the float world. There was a clearly defined case of someone getting sick in a float tank and Graham and Ashkahn are here to tell you what you as a float center owner (or future owner) should know about it and the steps you can take to keep yourself informed on this issue and make sure you don’t repeat any of the same mistakes. 

What’s Happening with the 2019 Float Conference? – OSP 06

Graham and Ashkahn are here to fill you in on all the exciting updates to the Float Conference, now that it’s a non-profit, along with what to expect this year. 

They’re hopping in quick to let everyone know what’s going on before early bird tickets close, so definitely check the link in the description if you haven’t got tickets yet!

Rise Interview with The Petrovics – OSP 05

So by now it’s old news that Chris and Donna Petrovics have closed up shop at ProFloat Inc. At Rise earlier this year, they gave an emotional, heartfelt farewell talk to the industry. There were tears, hugs, and words of love and encouragement all around.

This interview takes place immediately after their speech, and the effect of it still hangs in the air during our conversation. Be warned, this interview may make you misty eyed while listening. Although it’s possible that it’s just the chopped onions that exist in the background. 

Tank Topics – Startup Funds for Float Centers

This Tank Topic is all about how to get startup funds for float centers and understanding the different avenues for funding as a whole. The guys talk about everything from bank loans to securing investors to funding everything yourself and what that looks like.

Latest Blog Posts

We Want to Say ‘Tanks’ to Our Giveaway Pals

We Want to Say ‘Tanks’ to Our Giveaway Pals

We’re just past halfway through the entry period for the 2020 Start-a-Center Giveaway, and so excited by the response thus far! It's amazing that we get to help one winner make their dreams come true and we're so excited to help make that happen. There are tons of...

Things to Know About Adding Floating to Your Business

Things to Know About Adding Floating to Your Business

It’s becoming increasingly common to offer floating alongside other health and wellness modalities. In the most recent State of the Float Industry Report, 74% of float centers offer some form of wellness service in conjunction with floating. There’s a lot of reasons...